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    Bush: CIA kept terror suspects in secret prisons
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    •NEW: Top terror suspects to be transferred from CIA to military custody
    •NEW: No torture permitted at secret CIA prisons, Bush said
    •President Bush proposed new legislation authorizing detainee tribunals
    •Congress must approve new guidelines following Supreme Court ruling
    
    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Wednesday for the first time  
    acknowledged the use of secret CIA prisons outside U.S. borders to  
    hold top suspects captured in the war on terrorism.
    
    In a speech at the White House, Bush said captured terror suspects  
    have been the best intelligence source in efforts to stop new attacks  
    and listed attacks blocked because of this intelligence.
    
    The CIA program has "saved innocent lives," the president said.
    
    Bush said torture was not part of the program and he had not  
    authorized any form of torture, saying American law forbids it.
    
    Bush said locations of the prisons will remain secret.
    
    "They are in our custody so they cannot murder our people," Bush said  
    of the detainees.
    
    The program "helped take potential mass murderers off the streets,"  
    Bush said.
    
    Bush said that alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is  
    among 14 high-level detainees to be transferred from CIA to Pentagon  
    custody at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where, with congressional approval  
    of new military tribunals, they would face trial.
    
    Besides Mohammed, those who would face tribunals include Ramzi  
    Binalshibh and Abu Zubaydah and other suspects held in connection  
    with the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen and the bombing attacks on  
    U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
    
    Bush announced that the transferred detainees will get rights under  
    the Geneva Convention once transferred to Pentagon custody.
    
    Bush said Wednesday he would ask Congress for explicit rules so U.S.  
    personnel are protected from abuse charges as they fight the war on  
    terror.
    
    Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner, R-Virginia,  
    began circulating draft legislation on the tribunals two weeks ago.  
    Key players met with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee,  
    on Tuesday night to discuss the matter.
    
    While specifics are sketchy on what form the bill will take, a Warner  
    spokesman said lawmakers have been working "cooperatively" with the  
    administration on the version, "even though they have somewhat  
    different views."
    New Pentagon rules
    
    The president's proposal comes on the same day the Pentagon issued a  
    new directive on detainee treatment. (Full story)
    
    "All detainees shall be treated humanely and in accordance with U.S.  
    law, the law of war, and applicable U.S. policy," the directive says.
    
    "All persons subject to his directive shall observe ... at a minimum  
    the standards articulated in Common Article 3 to the Geneva  
    Conventions of 1949," it says.
    
    In a 5-3 decision in June, the Supreme Court ruled that existing law  
    barred military commissions. The decision effectively means officials  
    will have to come up with new procedures to prosecute at least 10  
    "enemy combatants" awaiting trial or release them from military custody.
    
    In the concurring opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer said, "Congress has  
    not issued the executive a blank check."
    
    "Indeed, Congress has denied the president the legislative authority  
    to create military commissions of the kind at issue here," he wrote.  
    However, he noted, "Nothing prevents the president from returning to  
    Congress to seek the authority he believes necessary."
    
    The case was brought on behalf of Yemeni suspect Salim Ahmed Hamdan,  
    who was captured in Afghanistan in 2001 and who officials say has  
    admitted being Osama bin Laden's bodyguard and driver.
    
    The United States has claimed that the Guantanamo detainees are not  
    on U.S. soil and therefore are not covered by the U.S. Constitution.
    
    The government has argued that enemy combatant or "unlawful  
    combatant" status means detainees can be denied legal protections  
    usually afforded prisoners of war, as outlined in the Geneva  
    Conventions.
    
    On Tuesday, Bush once again defended the war in Iraq as central to  
    the war on terrorism, saying that a U.S. withdrawal would only propel  
    bin Laden and other terrorists into more powerful positions. (Watch  
    Bush argue why Iraq is central to the war on terror -- 1:51)
    
    Bush has aggressively asserted the power of the government to  
    capture, detain and prosecute suspected terrorists in the wake of the  
    September 11, 2001, attacks.
    
    CNN's Ed Henry and Ted Barrett contributed to this report.
    
    Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be  
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  • Re: How i love the rain

    from noneck on Sep 06, 2006 05:39 PM
     
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    Bush: CIA kept terror suspects in secret prisons
    Story Highlights
    •NEW: Top terror suspects to be transferred from CIA to military custody
    •NEW: No torture permitted at secret CIA prisons, Bush said
    •President Bush proposed new legislation authorizing detainee tribunals
    •Congress must approve new guidelines following Supreme Court ruling
    
    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Wednesday for the first time
    acknowledged the use of secret CIA prisons outside U.S. borders to hold top
    suspects captured in the war on terrorism. 
    In a speech at the White House, Bush said captured terror suspects have been
    the best intelligence source in efforts to stop new attacks and listed attacks
    blocked because of this intelligence. 
    The CIA program has "saved innocent lives," the president said.
    
    Bush said torture was not part of the program and he had not authorized any
    form of torture, saying American law forbids it. 
    Bush said locations of the prisons will remain secret.
    
    "They are in our custody so they cannot murder our people," Bush said of the
    detainees. 
    The program "helped take potential mass murderers off the streets," Bush said.
    
    Bush said that alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is among 14
    high-level detainees to be transferred from CIA to Pentagon custody at
    Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where, with congressional approval of new military
    tribunals, they would face trial. 
    Besides Mohammed, those who would face tribunals include Ramzi Binalshibh and
    Abu Zubaydah and other suspects held in connection with the attack on the USS
    Cole in Yemen and the bombing attacks on U.S. embassies in Kenya and
    Tanzania.  Bush announced that the transferred detainees will get rights
    under the Geneva Convention once transferred to Pentagon custody. 
    Bush said Wednesday he would ask Congress for explicit rules so U.S. personnel
    are protected from abuse charges as they fight the war on terror. 
    Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner, R-Virginia, began
    circulating draft legislation on the tribunals two weeks ago. Key players met
    with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee, on Tuesday night to
    discuss the matter. 
    While specifics are sketchy on what form the bill will take, a Warner
    spokesman said lawmakers have been working "cooperatively" with the
    administration on the version, "even though they have somewhat different
    views." New Pentagon rules
    
    The president's proposal comes on the same day the Pentagon issued a new
    directive on detainee treatment. (Full story) 
    "All detainees shall be treated humanely and in accordance with U.S. law, the
    law of war, and applicable U.S. policy," the directive says. 
    "All persons subject to his directive shall observe ... at a minimum the
    standards articulated in Common Article 3 to the Geneva Conventions of 1949,"
    it says. 
    In a 5-3 decision in June, the Supreme Court ruled that existing law barred
    military commissions. The decision effectively means officials will have to
    come up with new procedures to prosecute at least 10 "enemy combatants"
    awaiting trial or release them from military custody. 
    In the concurring opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer said, "Congress has not
    issued the executive a blank check." 
    "Indeed, Congress has denied the president the legislative authority to create
    military commissions of the kind at issue here," he wrote. However, he noted,
    "Nothing prevents the president from returning to Congress to seek the
    authority he believes necessary." 
    The case was brought on behalf of Yemeni suspect Salim Ahmed Hamdan, who was
    captured in Afghanistan in 2001 and who officials say has admitted being Osama
    bin Laden's bodyguard and driver. 
    The United States has claimed that the Guantanamo detainees are not on U.S.
    soil and therefore are not covered by the U.S. Constitution. 
    The government has argued that enemy combatant or "unlawful combatant" status
    means detainees can be denied legal protections usually afforded prisoners of
    war, as outlined in the Geneva Conventions. 
    On Tuesday, Bush once again defended the war in Iraq as central to the war on
    terrorism, saying that a U.S. withdrawal would only propel bin Laden and other
    terrorists into more powerful positions. (Watch Bush argue why Iraq is central
    to the war on terror -- 1:51) 
    Bush has aggressively asserted the power of the government to capture, detain
    and prosecute suspected terrorists in the wake of the September 11, 2001,
    attacks. 
    CNN's Ed Henry and Ted Barrett contributed to this report.
    
    Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be published,
    broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press contributed to this
    report.  
     
     
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    On 2006-09-06 17:38, noel hidalgo wrote:
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    > Bush: CIA kept terror suspects in secret prisons
    > Story Highlights
    > •NEW: Top terror suspects to be transferred from CIA to military custody
    > •NEW: No torture permitted at secret CIA prisons, Bush said
    > •President Bush proposed new legislation authorizing detainee tribunals
    > •Congress must approve new guidelines following Supreme Court ruling
    > 
    > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Wednesday for the first time  
    > acknowledged the use of secret CIA prisons outside U.S. borders to  
    > hold top suspects captured in the war on terrorism.
    > 
    > In a speech at the White House, Bush said captured terror suspects  
    > have been the best intelligence source in efforts to stop new attacks  
    > and listed attacks blocked because of this intelligence.
    > 
    > The CIA program has "saved innocent lives," the president said.
    > 
    > Bush said torture was not part of the program and he had not  
    > authorized any form of torture, saying American law forbids it.
    > 
    > Bush said locations of the prisons will remain secret.
    > 
    > "They are in our custody so they cannot murder our people," Bush said  
    > of the detainees.
    > 
    > The program "helped take potential mass murderers off the streets,"  
    > Bush said.
    > 
    > Bush said that alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is  
    > among 14 high-level detainees to be transferred from CIA to Pentagon  
    > custody at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where, with congressional approval  
    > of new military tribunals, they would face trial.
    > 
    > Besides Mohammed, those who would face tribunals include Ramzi  
    > Binalshibh and Abu Zubaydah and other suspects held in connection  
    > with the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen and the bombing attacks on  
    > U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
    > 
    > Bush announced that the transferred detainees will get rights under  
    > the Geneva Convention once transferred to Pentagon custody.
    > 
    > Bush said Wednesday he would ask Congress for explicit rules so U.S.  
    > personnel are protected from abuse charges as they fight the war on  
    > terror.
    > 
    > Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner, R-Virginia,  
    > began circulating draft legislation on the tribunals two weeks ago.  
    > Key players met with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee,  
    > on Tuesday night to discuss the matter.
    > 
    > While specifics are sketchy on what form the bill will take, a Warner  
    > spokesman said lawmakers have been working "cooperatively" with the  
    > administration on the version, "even though they have somewhat  
    > different views."
    > New Pentagon rules
    > 
    > The president's proposal comes on the same day the Pentagon issued a  
    > new directive on detainee treatment. (Full story)
    > 
    > "All detainees shall be treated humanely and in accordance with U.S.  
    > law, the law of war, and applicable U.S. policy," the directive says.
    > 
    > "All persons subject to his directive shall observe ... at a minimum  
    > the standards articulated in Common Article 3 to the Geneva  
    > Conventions of 1949," it says.
    > 
    > In a 5-3 decision in June, the Supreme Court ruled that existing law  
    > barred military commissions. The decision effectively means officials  
    > will have to come up with new procedures to prosecute at least 10  
    > "enemy combatants" awaiting trial or release them from military custody.
    > 
    > In the concurring opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer said, "Congress has  
    > not issued the executive a blank check."
    > 
    > "Indeed, Congress has denied the president the legislative authority  
    > to create military commissions of the kind at issue here," he wrote.  
    > However, he noted, "Nothing prevents the president from returning to  
    > Congress to seek the authority he believes necessary."
    > 
    > The case was brought on behalf of Yemeni suspect Salim Ahmed Hamdan,  
    > who was captured in Afghanistan in 2001 and who officials say has  
    > admitted being Osama bin Laden's bodyguard and driver.
    > 
    > The United States has claimed that the Guantanamo detainees are not  
    > on U.S. soil and therefore are not covered by the U.S. Constitution.
    > 
    > The government has argued that enemy combatant or "unlawful  
    > combatant" status means detainees can be denied legal protections  
    > usually afforded prisoners of war, as outlined in the Geneva  
    > Conventions.
    > 
    > On Tuesday, Bush once again defended the war in Iraq as central to  
    > the war on terrorism, saying that a U.S. withdrawal would only propel  
    > bin Laden and other terrorists into more powerful positions. (Watch  
    > Bush argue why Iraq is central to the war on terror -- 1:51)
    > 
    > Bush has aggressively asserted the power of the government to  
    > capture, detain and prosecute suspected terrorists in the wake of the  
    > September 11, 2001, attacks.
    > 
    > CNN's Ed Henry and Ted Barrett contributed to this report.
    > 
    > Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be  
    > published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press  
    > contributed to this report.
    > 
    > 
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    • Re: How i love the rain

      from cholmes on Sep 06, 2006 05:42 PM
      Good thing there's no torture at secret prisons...
      
      On 2006-09-06 17:39, noel hidalgo wrote:
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      > Bush: CIA kept terror suspects in secret prisons
      > Story Highlights
      > •NEW: Top terror suspects to be transferred from CIA to military custody
      > •NEW: No torture permitted at secret CIA prisons, Bush said
      > •President Bush proposed new legislation authorizing detainee tribunals
      > •Congress must approve new guidelines following Supreme Court ruling
      > 
      > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Wednesday for the first time
      > acknowledged the use of secret CIA prisons outside U.S. borders to hold top
      > suspects captured in the war on terrorism. 
      > In a speech at the White House, Bush said captured terror suspects have been
      > the best intelligence source in efforts to stop new attacks and listed
      > attacks blocked because of this intelligence. 
      > The CIA program has "saved innocent lives," the president said.
      > 
      > Bush said torture was not part of the program and he had not authorized any
      > form of torture, saying American law forbids it. 
      > Bush said locations of the prisons will remain secret.
      > 
      > "They are in our custody so they cannot murder our people," Bush said of the
      > detainees. 
      > The program "helped take potential mass murderers off the streets," Bush
      > said. 
      > Bush said that alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is among 14
      > high-level detainees to be transferred from CIA to Pentagon custody at
      > Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where, with congressional approval of new military
      > tribunals, they would face trial. 
      > Besides Mohammed, those who would face tribunals include Ramzi Binalshibh
      > and Abu Zubaydah and other suspects held in connection with the attack on
      > the USS Cole in Yemen and the bombing attacks on U.S. embassies in Kenya
      > and Tanzania.  Bush announced that the transferred detainees will get
      > rights under the Geneva Convention once transferred to Pentagon custody. 
      > Bush said Wednesday he would ask Congress for explicit rules so U.S.
      > personnel are protected from abuse charges as they fight the war on
      > terror.  Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner, R-Virginia,
      > began circulating draft legislation on the tribunals two weeks ago. Key
      > players met with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee, on
      > Tuesday night to discuss the matter. 
      > While specifics are sketchy on what form the bill will take, a Warner
      > spokesman said lawmakers have been working "cooperatively" with the
      > administration on the version, "even though they have somewhat different
      > views." New Pentagon rules
      > 
      > The president's proposal comes on the same day the Pentagon issued a new
      > directive on detainee treatment. (Full story) 
      > "All detainees shall be treated humanely and in accordance with U.S. law,
      > the law of war, and applicable U.S. policy," the directive says. 
      > "All persons subject to his directive shall observe ... at a minimum the
      > standards articulated in Common Article 3 to the Geneva Conventions of
      > 1949," it says. 
      > In a 5-3 decision in June, the Supreme Court ruled that existing law barred
      > military commissions. The decision effectively means officials will have to
      > come up with new procedures to prosecute at least 10 "enemy combatants"
      > awaiting trial or release them from military custody. 
      > In the concurring opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer said, "Congress has not
      > issued the executive a blank check." 
      > "Indeed, Congress has denied the president the legislative authority to
      > create military commissions of the kind at issue here," he wrote. However,
      > he noted, "Nothing prevents the president from returning to Congress to
      > seek the authority he believes necessary." 
      > The case was brought on behalf of Yemeni suspect Salim Ahmed Hamdan, who was
      > captured in Afghanistan in 2001 and who officials say has admitted being
      > Osama bin Laden's bodyguard and driver. 
      > The United States has claimed that the Guantanamo detainees are not on U.S.
      > soil and therefore are not covered by the U.S. Constitution. 
      > The government has argued that enemy combatant or "unlawful combatant"
      > status means detainees can be denied legal protections usually afforded
      > prisoners of war, as outlined in the Geneva Conventions. 
      > On Tuesday, Bush once again defended the war in Iraq as central to the war
      > on terrorism, saying that a U.S. withdrawal would only propel bin Laden
      > and other terrorists into more powerful positions. (Watch Bush argue why
      > Iraq is central to the war on terror -- 1:51) 
      > Bush has aggressively asserted the power of the government to capture,
      > detain and prosecute suspected terrorists in the wake of the September 11,
      > 2001, attacks. 
      > CNN's Ed Henry and Ted Barrett contributed to this report.
      > 
      > Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be published,
      > broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press contributed to this
      > report.  
      >  
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      > > Bush: CIA kept terror suspects in secret prisons
      > > Story Highlights
      > > •NEW: Top terror suspects to be transferred from CIA to military custody
      > > •NEW: No torture permitted at secret CIA prisons, Bush said
      > > •President Bush proposed new legislation authorizing detainee tribunals
      > > •Congress must approve new guidelines following Supreme Court ruling
      > > 
      > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Wednesday for the first time  
      > > acknowledged the use of secret CIA prisons outside U.S. borders to  
      > > hold top suspects captured in the war on terrorism.
      > > 
      > > In a speech at the White House, Bush said captured terror suspects  
      > > have been the best intelligence source in efforts to stop new attacks  
      > > and listed attacks blocked because of this intelligence.
      > > 
      > > The CIA program has "saved innocent lives," the president said.
      > > 
      > > Bush said torture was not part of the program and he had not  
      > > authorized any form of torture, saying American law forbids it.
      > > 
      > > Bush said locations of the prisons will remain secret.
      > > 
      > > "They are in our custody so they cannot murder our people," Bush said  
      > > of the detainees.
      > > 
      > > The program "helped take potential mass murderers off the streets,"  
      > > Bush said.
      > > 
      > > Bush said that alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is  
      > > among 14 high-level detainees to be transferred from CIA to Pentagon  
      > > custody at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where, with congressional approval  
      > > of new military tribunals, they would face trial.
      > > 
      > > Besides Mohammed, those who would face tribunals include Ramzi  
      > > Binalshibh and Abu Zubaydah and other suspects held in connection  
      > > with the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen and the bombing attacks on  
      > > U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
      > > 
      > > Bush announced that the transferred detainees will get rights under  
      > > the Geneva Convention once transferred to Pentagon custody.
      > > 
      > > Bush said Wednesday he would ask Congress for explicit rules so U.S.  
      > > personnel are protected from abuse charges as they fight the war on  
      > > terror.
      > > 
      > > Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner, R-Virginia,  
      > > began circulating draft legislation on the tribunals two weeks ago.  
      > > Key players met with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee,  
      > > on Tuesday night to discuss the matter.
      > > 
      > > While specifics are sketchy on what form the bill will take, a Warner  
      > > spokesman said lawmakers have been working "cooperatively" with the  
      > > administration on the version, "even though they have somewhat  
      > > different views."
      > > New Pentagon rules
      > > 
      > > The president's proposal comes on the same day the Pentagon issued a  
      > > new directive on detainee treatment. (Full story)
      > > 
      > > "All detainees shall be treated humanely and in accordance with U.S.  
      > > law, the law of war, and applicable U.S. policy," the directive says.
      > > 
      > > "All persons subject to his directive shall observe ... at a minimum  
      > > the standards articulated in Common Article 3 to the Geneva  
      > > Conventions of 1949," it says.
      > > 
      > > In a 5-3 decision in June, the Supreme Court ruled that existing law  
      > > barred military commissions. The decision effectively means officials  
      > > will have to come up with new procedures to prosecute at least 10  
      > > "enemy combatants" awaiting trial or release them from military custody.
      > > 
      > > In the concurring opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer said, "Congress has  
      > > not issued the executive a blank check."
      > > 
      > > "Indeed, Congress has denied the president the legislative authority  
      > > to create military commissions of the kind at issue here," he wrote.  
      > > However, he noted, "Nothing prevents the president from returning to  
      > > Congress to seek the authority he believes necessary."
      > > 
      > > The case was brought on behalf of Yemeni suspect Salim Ahmed Hamdan,  
      > > who was captured in Afghanistan in 2001 and who officials say has  
      > > admitted being Osama bin Laden's bodyguard and driver.
      > > 
      > > The United States has claimed that the Guantanamo detainees are not  
      > > on U.S. soil and therefore are not covered by the U.S. Constitution.
      > > 
      > > The government has argued that enemy combatant or "unlawful  
      > > combatant" status means detainees can be denied legal protections  
      > > usually afforded prisoners of war, as outlined in the Geneva  
      > > Conventions.
      > > 
      > > On Tuesday, Bush once again defended the war in Iraq as central to  
      > > the war on terrorism, saying that a U.S. withdrawal would only propel  
      > > bin Laden and other terrorists into more powerful positions. (Watch  
      > > Bush argue why Iraq is central to the war on terror -- 1:51)
      > > 
      > > Bush has aggressively asserted the power of the government to  
      > > capture, detain and prosecute suspected terrorists in the wake of the  
      > > September 11, 2001, attacks.
      > > 
      > > CNN's Ed Henry and Ted Barrett contributed to this report.
      > > 
      > > Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be  
      > > published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press  
      > > contributed to this report.
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
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      • Re: Re: How i love the rain

        from noneck on Sep 06, 2006 05:58 PM
        i'm glad we know about them.
        
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        On Sep 6, 2006, at 5:42 PM, Chris Holmes wrote:
        
        > Good thing there's no torture at secret prisons...
        >
        > On 2006-09-06 17:39, noel hidalgo wrote:
        >>
        >>
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        >> Bush: CIA kept terror suspects in secret prisons
        >> Story Highlights
        >> •NEW: Top terror suspects to be transferred from CIA to military  
        >> custody
        >> •NEW: No torture permitted at secret CIA prisons, Bush said
        >> •President Bush proposed new legislation authorizing detainee  
        >> tribunals
        >> •Congress must approve new guidelines following Supreme Court ruling
        >>
        >> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Wednesday for the first time
        >> acknowledged the use of secret CIA prisons outside U.S. borders to  
        >> hold top
        >> suspects captured in the war on terrorism.
        >> In a speech at the White House, Bush said captured terror suspects  
        >> have been
        >> the best intelligence source in efforts to stop new attacks and  
        >> listed
        >> attacks blocked because of this intelligence.
        >> The CIA program has "saved innocent lives," the president said.
        >>
        >> Bush said torture was not part of the program and he had not  
        >> authorized any
        >> form of torture, saying American law forbids it.
        >> Bush said locations of the prisons will remain secret.
        >>
        >> "They are in our custody so they cannot murder our people," Bush  
        >> said of the
        >> detainees.
        >> The program "helped take potential mass murderers off the  
        >> streets," Bush
        >> said.
        >> Bush said that alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is  
        >> among 14
        >> high-level detainees to be transferred from CIA to Pentagon  
        >> custody at
        >> Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where, with congressional approval of new  
        >> military
        >> tribunals, they would face trial.
        >> Besides Mohammed, those who would face tribunals include Ramzi  
        >> Binalshibh
        >> and Abu Zubaydah and other suspects held in connection with the  
        >> attack on
        >> the USS Cole in Yemen and the bombing attacks on U.S. embassies in  
        >> Kenya
        >> and Tanzania.  Bush announced that the transferred detainees will get
        >> rights under the Geneva Convention once transferred to Pentagon  
        >> custody.
        >> Bush said Wednesday he would ask Congress for explicit rules so U.S.
        >> personnel are protected from abuse charges as they fight the war on
        >> terror.  Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner, R- 
        >> Virginia,
        >> began circulating draft legislation on the tribunals two weeks  
        >> ago. Key
        >> players met with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee, on
        >> Tuesday night to discuss the matter.
        >> While specifics are sketchy on what form the bill will take, a Warner
        >> spokesman said lawmakers have been working "cooperatively" with the
        >> administration on the version, "even though they have somewhat  
        >> different
        >> views." New Pentagon rules
        >>
        >> The president's proposal comes on the same day the Pentagon issued  
        >> a new
        >> directive on detainee treatment. (Full story)
        >> "All detainees shall be treated humanely and in accordance with  
        >> U.S. law,
        >> the law of war, and applicable U.S. policy," the directive says.
        >> "All persons subject to his directive shall observe ... at a  
        >> minimum the
        >> standards articulated in Common Article 3 to the Geneva  
        >> Conventions of
        >> 1949," it says.
        >> In a 5-3 decision in June, the Supreme Court ruled that existing  
        >> law barred
        >> military commissions. The decision effectively means officials  
        >> will have to
        >> come up with new procedures to prosecute at least 10 "enemy  
        >> combatants"
        >> awaiting trial or release them from military custody.
        >> In the concurring opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer said, "Congress  
        >> has not
        >> issued the executive a blank check."
        >> "Indeed, Congress has denied the president the legislative  
        >> authority to
        >> create military commissions of the kind at issue here," he wrote.  
        >> However,
        >> he noted, "Nothing prevents the president from returning to  
        >> Congress to
        >> seek the authority he believes necessary."
        >> The case was brought on behalf of Yemeni suspect Salim Ahmed  
        >> Hamdan, who was
        >> captured in Afghanistan in 2001 and who officials say has admitted  
        >> being
        >> Osama bin Laden's bodyguard and driver.
        >> The United States has claimed that the Guantanamo detainees are  
        >> not on U.S.
        >> soil and therefore are not covered by the U.S. Constitution.
        >> The government has argued that enemy combatant or "unlawful  
        >> combatant"
        >> status means detainees can be denied legal protections usually  
        >> afforded
        >> prisoners of war, as outlined in the Geneva Conventions.
        >> On Tuesday, Bush once again defended the war in Iraq as central to  
        >> the war
        >> on terrorism, saying that a U.S. withdrawal would only propel bin  
        >> Laden
        >> and other terrorists into more powerful positions. (Watch Bush  
        >> argue why
        >> Iraq is central to the war on terror -- 1:51)
        >> Bush has aggressively asserted the power of the government to  
        >> capture,
        >> detain and prosecute suspected terrorists in the wake of the  
        >> September 11,
        >> 2001, attacks.
        >> CNN's Ed Henry and Ted Barrett contributed to this report.
        >>
        >> Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be  
        >> published,
        >> broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press  
        >> contributed to this
        >> report.
        >>
        >>
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        >>> Bush: CIA kept terror suspects in secret prisons
        >>> Story Highlights
        >>> •NEW: Top terror suspects to be transferred from CIA to military  
        >>> custody
        >>> •NEW: No torture permitted at secret CIA prisons, Bush said
        >>> •President Bush proposed new legislation authorizing detainee  
        >>> tribunals
        >>> •Congress must approve new guidelines following Supreme Court ruling
        >>>
        >>> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Wednesday for the first time
        >>> acknowledged the use of secret CIA prisons outside U.S. borders to
        >>> hold top suspects captured in the war on terrorism.
        >>>
        >>> In a speech at the White House, Bush said captured terror suspects
        >>> have been the best intelligence source in efforts to stop new  
        >>> attacks
        >>> and listed attacks blocked because of this intelligence.
        >>>
        >>> The CIA program has "saved innocent lives," the president said.
        >>>
        >>> Bush said torture was not part of the program and he had not
        >>> authorized any form of torture, saying American law forbids it.
        >>>
        >>> Bush said locations of the prisons will remain secret.
        >>>
        >>> "They are in our custody so they cannot murder our people," Bush  
        >>> said
        >>> of the detainees.
        >>>
        >>> The program "helped take potential mass murderers off the streets,"
        >>> Bush said.
        >>>
        >>> Bush said that alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is
        >>> among 14 high-level detainees to be transferred from CIA to Pentagon
        >>> custody at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where, with congressional approval
        >>> of new military tribunals, they would face trial.
        >>>
        >>> Besides Mohammed, those who would face tribunals include Ramzi
        >>> Binalshibh and Abu Zubaydah and other suspects held in connection
        >>> with the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen and the bombing attacks on
        >>> U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
        >>>
        >>> Bush announced that the transferred detainees will get rights under
        >>> the Geneva Convention once transferred to Pentagon custody.
        >>>
        >>> Bush said Wednesday he would ask Congress for explicit rules so U.S.
        >>> personnel are protected from abuse charges as they fight the war on
        >>> terror.
        >>>
        >>> Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner, R-Virginia,
        >>> began circulating draft legislation on the tribunals two weeks ago.
        >>> Key players met with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee,
        >>> on Tuesday night to discuss the matter.
        >>>
        >>> While specifics are sketchy on what form the bill will take, a  
        >>> Warner
        >>> spokesman said lawmakers have been working "cooperatively" with the
        >>> administration on the version, "even though they have somewhat
        >>> different views."
        >>> New Pentagon rules
        >>>
        >>> The president's proposal comes on the same day the Pentagon issued a
        >>> new directive on detainee treatment. (Full story)
        >>>
        >>> "All detainees shall be treated humanely and in accordance with U.S.
        >>> law, the law of war, and applicable U.S. policy," the directive  
        >>> says.
        >>>
        >>> "All persons subject to his directive shall observe ... at a minimum
        >>> the standards articulated in Common Article 3 to the Geneva
        >>> Conventions of 1949," it says.
        >>>
        >>> In a 5-3 decision in June, the Supreme Court ruled that existing law
        >>> barred military commissions. The decision effectively means  
        >>> officials
        >>> will have to come up with new procedures to prosecute at least 10
        >>> "enemy combatants" awaiting trial or release them from military  
        >>> custody.
        >>>
        >>> In the concurring opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer said, "Congress  
        >>> has
        >>> not issued the executive a blank check."
        >>>
        >>> "Indeed, Congress has denied the president the legislative authority
        >>> to create military commissions of the kind at issue here," he wrote.
        >>> However, he noted, "Nothing prevents the president from returning to
        >>> Congress to seek the authority he believes necessary."
        >>>
        >>> The case was brought on behalf of Yemeni suspect Salim Ahmed Hamdan,
        >>> who was captured in Afghanistan in 2001 and who officials say has
        >>> admitted being Osama bin Laden's bodyguard and driver.
        >>>
        >>> The United States has claimed that the Guantanamo detainees are not
        >>> on U.S. soil and therefore are not covered by the U.S. Constitution.
        >>>
        >>> The government has argued that enemy combatant or "unlawful
        >>> combatant" status means detainees can be denied legal protections
        >>> usually afforded prisoners of war, as outlined in the Geneva
        >>> Conventions.
        >>>
        >>> On Tuesday, Bush once again defended the war in Iraq as central to
        >>> the war on terrorism, saying that a U.S. withdrawal would only  
        >>> propel
        >>> bin Laden and other terrorists into more powerful positions. (Watch
        >>> Bush argue why Iraq is central to the war on terror -- 1:51)
        >>>
        >>> Bush has aggressively asserted the power of the government to
        >>> capture, detain and prosecute suspected terrorists in the wake of  
        >>> the
        >>> September 11, 2001, attacks.
        >>>
        >>> CNN's Ed Henry and Ted Barrett contributed to this report.
        >>>
        >>> Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be
        >>> published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press
        >>> contributed to this report.
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>> Find this article at:
        >>> http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/06/bush.speech/index.html
        >>>
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