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    from cholmes on Sep 06, 2006 05:42 PM
    Good thing there's no torture at secret prisons...
    
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    > •NEW: No torture permitted at secret CIA prisons, Bush said
    > •President Bush proposed new legislation authorizing detainee tribunals
    > •Congress must approve new guidelines following Supreme Court ruling
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    > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Wednesday for the first time
    > acknowledged the use of secret CIA prisons outside U.S. borders to hold top
    > suspects captured in the war on terrorism. 
    > In a speech at the White House, Bush said captured terror suspects have been
    > the best intelligence source in efforts to stop new attacks and listed
    > attacks blocked because of this intelligence. 
    > The CIA program has "saved innocent lives," the president said.
    > 
    > Bush said torture was not part of the program and he had not authorized any
    > form of torture, saying American law forbids it. 
    > Bush said locations of the prisons will remain secret.
    > 
    > "They are in our custody so they cannot murder our people," Bush said of the
    > detainees. 
    > The program "helped take potential mass murderers off the streets," Bush
    > said. 
    > Bush said that alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is among 14
    > high-level detainees to be transferred from CIA to Pentagon custody at
    > Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where, with congressional approval of new military
    > tribunals, they would face trial. 
    > Besides Mohammed, those who would face tribunals include Ramzi Binalshibh
    > and Abu Zubaydah and other suspects held in connection with the attack on
    > the USS Cole in Yemen and the bombing attacks on U.S. embassies in Kenya
    > and Tanzania.  Bush announced that the transferred detainees will get
    > rights under the Geneva Convention once transferred to Pentagon custody. 
    > Bush said Wednesday he would ask Congress for explicit rules so U.S.
    > personnel are protected from abuse charges as they fight the war on
    > terror.  Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner, R-Virginia,
    > began circulating draft legislation on the tribunals two weeks ago. Key
    > players met with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee, on
    > Tuesday night to discuss the matter. 
    > While specifics are sketchy on what form the bill will take, a Warner
    > spokesman said lawmakers have been working "cooperatively" with the
    > administration on the version, "even though they have somewhat different
    > views." New Pentagon rules
    > 
    > The president's proposal comes on the same day the Pentagon issued a new
    > directive on detainee treatment. (Full story) 
    > "All detainees shall be treated humanely and in accordance with U.S. law,
    > the law of war, and applicable U.S. policy," the directive says. 
    > "All persons subject to his directive shall observe ... at a minimum the
    > standards articulated in Common Article 3 to the Geneva Conventions of
    > 1949," it says. 
    > In a 5-3 decision in June, the Supreme Court ruled that existing law barred
    > military commissions. The decision effectively means officials will have to
    > come up with new procedures to prosecute at least 10 "enemy combatants"
    > awaiting trial or release them from military custody. 
    > In the concurring opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer said, "Congress has not
    > issued the executive a blank check." 
    > "Indeed, Congress has denied the president the legislative authority to
    > create military commissions of the kind at issue here," he wrote. However,
    > he noted, "Nothing prevents the president from returning to Congress to
    > seek the authority he believes necessary." 
    > The case was brought on behalf of Yemeni suspect Salim Ahmed Hamdan, who was
    > captured in Afghanistan in 2001 and who officials say has admitted being
    > Osama bin Laden's bodyguard and driver. 
    > The United States has claimed that the Guantanamo detainees are not on U.S.
    > soil and therefore are not covered by the U.S. Constitution. 
    > The government has argued that enemy combatant or "unlawful combatant"
    > status means detainees can be denied legal protections usually afforded
    > prisoners of war, as outlined in the Geneva Conventions. 
    > On Tuesday, Bush once again defended the war in Iraq as central to the war
    > on terrorism, saying that a U.S. withdrawal would only propel bin Laden
    > and other terrorists into more powerful positions. (Watch Bush argue why
    > Iraq is central to the war on terror -- 1:51) 
    > Bush has aggressively asserted the power of the government to capture,
    > detain and prosecute suspected terrorists in the wake of the September 11,
    > 2001, attacks. 
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    > > Bush: CIA kept terror suspects in secret prisons
    > > Story Highlights
    > > •NEW: Top terror suspects to be transferred from CIA to military custody
    > > •NEW: No torture permitted at secret CIA prisons, Bush said
    > > •President Bush proposed new legislation authorizing detainee tribunals
    > > •Congress must approve new guidelines following Supreme Court ruling
    > > 
    > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Wednesday for the first time  
    > > acknowledged the use of secret CIA prisons outside U.S. borders to  
    > > hold top suspects captured in the war on terrorism.
    > > 
    > > In a speech at the White House, Bush said captured terror suspects  
    > > have been the best intelligence source in efforts to stop new attacks  
    > > and listed attacks blocked because of this intelligence.
    > > 
    > > The CIA program has "saved innocent lives," the president said.
    > > 
    > > Bush said torture was not part of the program and he had not  
    > > authorized any form of torture, saying American law forbids it.
    > > 
    > > Bush said locations of the prisons will remain secret.
    > > 
    > > "They are in our custody so they cannot murder our people," Bush said  
    > > of the detainees.
    > > 
    > > The program "helped take potential mass murderers off the streets,"  
    > > Bush said.
    > > 
    > > Bush said that alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is  
    > > among 14 high-level detainees to be transferred from CIA to Pentagon  
    > > custody at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where, with congressional approval  
    > > of new military tribunals, they would face trial.
    > > 
    > > Besides Mohammed, those who would face tribunals include Ramzi  
    > > Binalshibh and Abu Zubaydah and other suspects held in connection  
    > > with the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen and the bombing attacks on  
    > > U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
    > > 
    > > Bush announced that the transferred detainees will get rights under  
    > > the Geneva Convention once transferred to Pentagon custody.
    > > 
    > > Bush said Wednesday he would ask Congress for explicit rules so U.S.  
    > > personnel are protected from abuse charges as they fight the war on  
    > > terror.
    > > 
    > > Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner, R-Virginia,  
    > > began circulating draft legislation on the tribunals two weeks ago.  
    > > Key players met with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee,  
    > > on Tuesday night to discuss the matter.
    > > 
    > > While specifics are sketchy on what form the bill will take, a Warner  
    > > spokesman said lawmakers have been working "cooperatively" with the  
    > > administration on the version, "even though they have somewhat  
    > > different views."
    > > New Pentagon rules
    > > 
    > > The president's proposal comes on the same day the Pentagon issued a  
    > > new directive on detainee treatment. (Full story)
    > > 
    > > "All detainees shall be treated humanely and in accordance with U.S.  
    > > law, the law of war, and applicable U.S. policy," the directive says.
    > > 
    > > "All persons subject to his directive shall observe ... at a minimum  
    > > the standards articulated in Common Article 3 to the Geneva  
    > > Conventions of 1949," it says.
    > > 
    > > In a 5-3 decision in June, the Supreme Court ruled that existing law  
    > > barred military commissions. The decision effectively means officials  
    > > will have to come up with new procedures to prosecute at least 10  
    > > "enemy combatants" awaiting trial or release them from military custody.
    > > 
    > > In the concurring opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer said, "Congress has  
    > > not issued the executive a blank check."
    > > 
    > > "Indeed, Congress has denied the president the legislative authority  
    > > to create military commissions of the kind at issue here," he wrote.  
    > > However, he noted, "Nothing prevents the president from returning to  
    > > Congress to seek the authority he believes necessary."
    > > 
    > > The case was brought on behalf of Yemeni suspect Salim Ahmed Hamdan,  
    > > who was captured in Afghanistan in 2001 and who officials say has  
    > > admitted being Osama bin Laden's bodyguard and driver.
    > > 
    > > The United States has claimed that the Guantanamo detainees are not  
    > > on U.S. soil and therefore are not covered by the U.S. Constitution.
    > > 
    > > The government has argued that enemy combatant or "unlawful  
    > > combatant" status means detainees can be denied legal protections  
    > > usually afforded prisoners of war, as outlined in the Geneva  
    > > Conventions.
    > > 
    > > On Tuesday, Bush once again defended the war in Iraq as central to  
    > > the war on terrorism, saying that a U.S. withdrawal would only propel  
    > > bin Laden and other terrorists into more powerful positions. (Watch  
    > > Bush argue why Iraq is central to the war on terror -- 1:51)
    > > 
    > > Bush has aggressively asserted the power of the government to  
    > > capture, detain and prosecute suspected terrorists in the wake of the  
    > > September 11, 2001, attacks.
    > > 
    > > CNN's Ed Henry and Ted Barrett contributed to this report.
    > > 
    > > Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be  
    > > published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press  
    > > contributed to this report.
    > > 
    > > 
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  • Re: Re: How i love the rain

    from noneck on Sep 06, 2006 05:58 PM
    i'm glad we know about them.
    
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    On Sep 6, 2006, at 5:42 PM, Chris Holmes wrote:
    
    > Good thing there's no torture at secret prisons...
    >
    > On 2006-09-06 17:39, noel hidalgo wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> CNN.com 	
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    >>
    >> Bush: CIA kept terror suspects in secret prisons
    >> Story Highlights
    >> •NEW: Top terror suspects to be transferred from CIA to military  
    >> custody
    >> •NEW: No torture permitted at secret CIA prisons, Bush said
    >> •President Bush proposed new legislation authorizing detainee  
    >> tribunals
    >> •Congress must approve new guidelines following Supreme Court ruling
    >>
    >> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Wednesday for the first time
    >> acknowledged the use of secret CIA prisons outside U.S. borders to  
    >> hold top
    >> suspects captured in the war on terrorism.
    >> In a speech at the White House, Bush said captured terror suspects  
    >> have been
    >> the best intelligence source in efforts to stop new attacks and  
    >> listed
    >> attacks blocked because of this intelligence.
    >> The CIA program has "saved innocent lives," the president said.
    >>
    >> Bush said torture was not part of the program and he had not  
    >> authorized any
    >> form of torture, saying American law forbids it.
    >> Bush said locations of the prisons will remain secret.
    >>
    >> "They are in our custody so they cannot murder our people," Bush  
    >> said of the
    >> detainees.
    >> The program "helped take potential mass murderers off the  
    >> streets," Bush
    >> said.
    >> Bush said that alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is  
    >> among 14
    >> high-level detainees to be transferred from CIA to Pentagon  
    >> custody at
    >> Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where, with congressional approval of new  
    >> military
    >> tribunals, they would face trial.
    >> Besides Mohammed, those who would face tribunals include Ramzi  
    >> Binalshibh
    >> and Abu Zubaydah and other suspects held in connection with the  
    >> attack on
    >> the USS Cole in Yemen and the bombing attacks on U.S. embassies in  
    >> Kenya
    >> and Tanzania.  Bush announced that the transferred detainees will get
    >> rights under the Geneva Convention once transferred to Pentagon  
    >> custody.
    >> Bush said Wednesday he would ask Congress for explicit rules so U.S.
    >> personnel are protected from abuse charges as they fight the war on
    >> terror.  Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner, R- 
    >> Virginia,
    >> began circulating draft legislation on the tribunals two weeks  
    >> ago. Key
    >> players met with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee, on
    >> Tuesday night to discuss the matter.
    >> While specifics are sketchy on what form the bill will take, a Warner
    >> spokesman said lawmakers have been working "cooperatively" with the
    >> administration on the version, "even though they have somewhat  
    >> different
    >> views." New Pentagon rules
    >>
    >> The president's proposal comes on the same day the Pentagon issued  
    >> a new
    >> directive on detainee treatment. (Full story)
    >> "All detainees shall be treated humanely and in accordance with  
    >> U.S. law,
    >> the law of war, and applicable U.S. policy," the directive says.
    >> "All persons subject to his directive shall observe ... at a  
    >> minimum the
    >> standards articulated in Common Article 3 to the Geneva  
    >> Conventions of
    >> 1949," it says.
    >> In a 5-3 decision in June, the Supreme Court ruled that existing  
    >> law barred
    >> military commissions. The decision effectively means officials  
    >> will have to
    >> come up with new procedures to prosecute at least 10 "enemy  
    >> combatants"
    >> awaiting trial or release them from military custody.
    >> In the concurring opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer said, "Congress  
    >> has not
    >> issued the executive a blank check."
    >> "Indeed, Congress has denied the president the legislative  
    >> authority to
    >> create military commissions of the kind at issue here," he wrote.  
    >> However,
    >> he noted, "Nothing prevents the president from returning to  
    >> Congress to
    >> seek the authority he believes necessary."
    >> The case was brought on behalf of Yemeni suspect Salim Ahmed  
    >> Hamdan, who was
    >> captured in Afghanistan in 2001 and who officials say has admitted  
    >> being
    >> Osama bin Laden's bodyguard and driver.
    >> The United States has claimed that the Guantanamo detainees are  
    >> not on U.S.
    >> soil and therefore are not covered by the U.S. Constitution.
    >> The government has argued that enemy combatant or "unlawful  
    >> combatant"
    >> status means detainees can be denied legal protections usually  
    >> afforded
    >> prisoners of war, as outlined in the Geneva Conventions.
    >> On Tuesday, Bush once again defended the war in Iraq as central to  
    >> the war
    >> on terrorism, saying that a U.S. withdrawal would only propel bin  
    >> Laden
    >> and other terrorists into more powerful positions. (Watch Bush  
    >> argue why
    >> Iraq is central to the war on terror -- 1:51)
    >> Bush has aggressively asserted the power of the government to  
    >> capture,
    >> detain and prosecute suspected terrorists in the wake of the  
    >> September 11,
    >> 2001, attacks.
    >> CNN's Ed Henry and Ted Barrett contributed to this report.
    >>
    >> Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be  
    >> published,
    >> broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press  
    >> contributed to this
    >> report.
    >>
    >>
    >> Find this article at:
    >> http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/06/bush.speech/index.html
    >>
    >> Click Here to Print 	
    >> 	 SAVE THIS | EMAIL THIS | Close
    >>  Check the box to include the list of links referenced in the  
    >> article.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On 2006-09-06 17:38, noel hidalgo wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> CNN.com 	
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    >>>
    >>> Bush: CIA kept terror suspects in secret prisons
    >>> Story Highlights
    >>> •NEW: Top terror suspects to be transferred from CIA to military  
    >>> custody
    >>> •NEW: No torture permitted at secret CIA prisons, Bush said
    >>> •President Bush proposed new legislation authorizing detainee  
    >>> tribunals
    >>> •Congress must approve new guidelines following Supreme Court ruling
    >>>
    >>> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Wednesday for the first time
    >>> acknowledged the use of secret CIA prisons outside U.S. borders to
    >>> hold top suspects captured in the war on terrorism.
    >>>
    >>> In a speech at the White House, Bush said captured terror suspects
    >>> have been the best intelligence source in efforts to stop new  
    >>> attacks
    >>> and listed attacks blocked because of this intelligence.
    >>>
    >>> The CIA program has "saved innocent lives," the president said.
    >>>
    >>> Bush said torture was not part of the program and he had not
    >>> authorized any form of torture, saying American law forbids it.
    >>>
    >>> Bush said locations of the prisons will remain secret.
    >>>
    >>> "They are in our custody so they cannot murder our people," Bush  
    >>> said
    >>> of the detainees.
    >>>
    >>> The program "helped take potential mass murderers off the streets,"
    >>> Bush said.
    >>>
    >>> Bush said that alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is
    >>> among 14 high-level detainees to be transferred from CIA to Pentagon
    >>> custody at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where, with congressional approval
    >>> of new military tribunals, they would face trial.
    >>>
    >>> Besides Mohammed, those who would face tribunals include Ramzi
    >>> Binalshibh and Abu Zubaydah and other suspects held in connection
    >>> with the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen and the bombing attacks on
    >>> U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
    >>>
    >>> Bush announced that the transferred detainees will get rights under
    >>> the Geneva Convention once transferred to Pentagon custody.
    >>>
    >>> Bush said Wednesday he would ask Congress for explicit rules so U.S.
    >>> personnel are protected from abuse charges as they fight the war on
    >>> terror.
    >>>
    >>> Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner, R-Virginia,
    >>> began circulating draft legislation on the tribunals two weeks ago.
    >>> Key players met with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee,
    >>> on Tuesday night to discuss the matter.
    >>>
    >>> While specifics are sketchy on what form the bill will take, a  
    >>> Warner
    >>> spokesman said lawmakers have been working "cooperatively" with the
    >>> administration on the version, "even though they have somewhat
    >>> different views."
    >>> New Pentagon rules
    >>>
    >>> The president's proposal comes on the same day the Pentagon issued a
    >>> new directive on detainee treatment. (Full story)
    >>>
    >>> "All detainees shall be treated humanely and in accordance with U.S.
    >>> law, the law of war, and applicable U.S. policy," the directive  
    >>> says.
    >>>
    >>> "All persons subject to his directive shall observe ... at a minimum
    >>> the standards articulated in Common Article 3 to the Geneva
    >>> Conventions of 1949," it says.
    >>>
    >>> In a 5-3 decision in June, the Supreme Court ruled that existing law
    >>> barred military commissions. The decision effectively means  
    >>> officials
    >>> will have to come up with new procedures to prosecute at least 10
    >>> "enemy combatants" awaiting trial or release them from military  
    >>> custody.
    >>>
    >>> In the concurring opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer said, "Congress  
    >>> has
    >>> not issued the executive a blank check."
    >>>
    >>> "Indeed, Congress has denied the president the legislative authority
    >>> to create military commissions of the kind at issue here," he wrote.
    >>> However, he noted, "Nothing prevents the president from returning to
    >>> Congress to seek the authority he believes necessary."
    >>>
    >>> The case was brought on behalf of Yemeni suspect Salim Ahmed Hamdan,
    >>> who was captured in Afghanistan in 2001 and who officials say has
    >>> admitted being Osama bin Laden's bodyguard and driver.
    >>>
    >>> The United States has claimed that the Guantanamo detainees are not
    >>> on U.S. soil and therefore are not covered by the U.S. Constitution.
    >>>
    >>> The government has argued that enemy combatant or "unlawful
    >>> combatant" status means detainees can be denied legal protections
    >>> usually afforded prisoners of war, as outlined in the Geneva
    >>> Conventions.
    >>>
    >>> On Tuesday, Bush once again defended the war in Iraq as central to
    >>> the war on terrorism, saying that a U.S. withdrawal would only  
    >>> propel
    >>> bin Laden and other terrorists into more powerful positions. (Watch
    >>> Bush argue why Iraq is central to the war on terror -- 1:51)
    >>>
    >>> Bush has aggressively asserted the power of the government to
    >>> capture, detain and prosecute suspected terrorists in the wake of  
    >>> the
    >>> September 11, 2001, attacks.
    >>>
    >>> CNN's Ed Henry and Ted Barrett contributed to this report.
    >>>
    >>> Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be
    >>> published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press
    >>> contributed to this report.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Find this article at:
    >>> http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/06/bush.speech/index.html
    >>>
    >>> Click Here to Print 	
    >>> 	 SAVE THIS | EMAIL THIS | Close
    >>>   Check the box to include the list of links referenced in the  
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    >>>
    >>>
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