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On Sep 6, 2006, at 5:42 PM, Chris Holmes wrote:
> Good thing there's no torture at secret prisons...
>
> On 2006-09-06 17:39, noel hidalgo wrote:
>>
>>
>> CNN.com
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>> Bush: CIA kept terror suspects in secret prisons
>> Story Highlights
>> •NEW: Top terror suspects to be transferred from CIA to military
>> custody
>> •NEW: No torture permitted at secret CIA prisons, Bush said
>> •President Bush proposed new legislation authorizing detainee
>> tribunals
>> •Congress must approve new guidelines following Supreme Court ruling
>>
>> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Wednesday for the first time
>> acknowledged the use of secret CIA prisons outside U.S. borders to
>> hold top
>> suspects captured in the war on terrorism.
>> In a speech at the White House, Bush said captured terror suspects
>> have been
>> the best intelligence source in efforts to stop new attacks and
>> listed
>> attacks blocked because of this intelligence.
>> The CIA program has "saved innocent lives," the president said.
>>
>> Bush said torture was not part of the program and he had not
>> authorized any
>> form of torture, saying American law forbids it.
>> Bush said locations of the prisons will remain secret.
>>
>> "They are in our custody so they cannot murder our people," Bush
>> said of the
>> detainees.
>> The program "helped take potential mass murderers off the
>> streets," Bush
>> said.
>> Bush said that alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is
>> among 14
>> high-level detainees to be transferred from CIA to Pentagon
>> custody at
>> Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where, with congressional approval of new
>> military
>> tribunals, they would face trial.
>> Besides Mohammed, those who would face tribunals include Ramzi
>> Binalshibh
>> and Abu Zubaydah and other suspects held in connection with the
>> attack on
>> the USS Cole in Yemen and the bombing attacks on U.S. embassies in
>> Kenya
>> and Tanzania. Bush announced that the transferred detainees will get
>> rights under the Geneva Convention once transferred to Pentagon
>> custody.
>> Bush said Wednesday he would ask Congress for explicit rules so U.S.
>> personnel are protected from abuse charges as they fight the war on
>> terror. Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner, R-
>> Virginia,
>> began circulating draft legislation on the tribunals two weeks
>> ago. Key
>> players met with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee, on
>> Tuesday night to discuss the matter.
>> While specifics are sketchy on what form the bill will take, a Warner
>> spokesman said lawmakers have been working "cooperatively" with the
>> administration on the version, "even though they have somewhat
>> different
>> views." New Pentagon rules
>>
>> The president's proposal comes on the same day the Pentagon issued
>> a new
>> directive on detainee treatment. (Full story)
>> "All detainees shall be treated humanely and in accordance with
>> U.S. law,
>> the law of war, and applicable U.S. policy," the directive says.
>> "All persons subject to his directive shall observe ... at a
>> minimum the
>> standards articulated in Common Article 3 to the Geneva
>> Conventions of
>> 1949," it says.
>> In a 5-3 decision in June, the Supreme Court ruled that existing
>> law barred
>> military commissions. The decision effectively means officials
>> will have to
>> come up with new procedures to prosecute at least 10 "enemy
>> combatants"
>> awaiting trial or release them from military custody.
>> In the concurring opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer said, "Congress
>> has not
>> issued the executive a blank check."
>> "Indeed, Congress has denied the president the legislative
>> authority to
>> create military commissions of the kind at issue here," he wrote.
>> However,
>> he noted, "Nothing prevents the president from returning to
>> Congress to
>> seek the authority he believes necessary."
>> The case was brought on behalf of Yemeni suspect Salim Ahmed
>> Hamdan, who was
>> captured in Afghanistan in 2001 and who officials say has admitted
>> being
>> Osama bin Laden's bodyguard and driver.
>> The United States has claimed that the Guantanamo detainees are
>> not on U.S.
>> soil and therefore are not covered by the U.S. Constitution.
>> The government has argued that enemy combatant or "unlawful
>> combatant"
>> status means detainees can be denied legal protections usually
>> afforded
>> prisoners of war, as outlined in the Geneva Conventions.
>> On Tuesday, Bush once again defended the war in Iraq as central to
>> the war
>> on terrorism, saying that a U.S. withdrawal would only propel bin
>> Laden
>> and other terrorists into more powerful positions. (Watch Bush
>> argue why
>> Iraq is central to the war on terror -- 1:51)
>> Bush has aggressively asserted the power of the government to
>> capture,
>> detain and prosecute suspected terrorists in the wake of the
>> September 11,
>> 2001, attacks.
>> CNN's Ed Henry and Ted Barrett contributed to this report.
>>
>> Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be
>> published,
>> broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press
>> contributed to this
>> report.
>>
>>
>> Find this article at:
>> http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/06/bush.speech/index.html
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>>
>> On 2006-09-06 17:38, noel hidalgo wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> CNN.com
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>>>
>>> Bush: CIA kept terror suspects in secret prisons
>>> Story Highlights
>>> •NEW: Top terror suspects to be transferred from CIA to military
>>> custody
>>> •NEW: No torture permitted at secret CIA prisons, Bush said
>>> •President Bush proposed new legislation authorizing detainee
>>> tribunals
>>> •Congress must approve new guidelines following Supreme Court ruling
>>>
>>> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Wednesday for the first time
>>> acknowledged the use of secret CIA prisons outside U.S. borders to
>>> hold top suspects captured in the war on terrorism.
>>>
>>> In a speech at the White House, Bush said captured terror suspects
>>> have been the best intelligence source in efforts to stop new
>>> attacks
>>> and listed attacks blocked because of this intelligence.
>>>
>>> The CIA program has "saved innocent lives," the president said.
>>>
>>> Bush said torture was not part of the program and he had not
>>> authorized any form of torture, saying American law forbids it.
>>>
>>> Bush said locations of the prisons will remain secret.
>>>
>>> "They are in our custody so they cannot murder our people," Bush
>>> said
>>> of the detainees.
>>>
>>> The program "helped take potential mass murderers off the streets,"
>>> Bush said.
>>>
>>> Bush said that alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is
>>> among 14 high-level detainees to be transferred from CIA to Pentagon
>>> custody at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where, with congressional approval
>>> of new military tribunals, they would face trial.
>>>
>>> Besides Mohammed, those who would face tribunals include Ramzi
>>> Binalshibh and Abu Zubaydah and other suspects held in connection
>>> with the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen and the bombing attacks on
>>> U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
>>>
>>> Bush announced that the transferred detainees will get rights under
>>> the Geneva Convention once transferred to Pentagon custody.
>>>
>>> Bush said Wednesday he would ask Congress for explicit rules so U.S.
>>> personnel are protected from abuse charges as they fight the war on
>>> terror.
>>>
>>> Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner, R-Virginia,
>>> began circulating draft legislation on the tribunals two weeks ago.
>>> Key players met with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee,
>>> on Tuesday night to discuss the matter.
>>>
>>> While specifics are sketchy on what form the bill will take, a
>>> Warner
>>> spokesman said lawmakers have been working "cooperatively" with the
>>> administration on the version, "even though they have somewhat
>>> different views."
>>> New Pentagon rules
>>>
>>> The president's proposal comes on the same day the Pentagon issued a
>>> new directive on detainee treatment. (Full story)
>>>
>>> "All detainees shall be treated humanely and in accordance with U.S.
>>> law, the law of war, and applicable U.S. policy," the directive
>>> says.
>>>
>>> "All persons subject to his directive shall observe ... at a minimum
>>> the standards articulated in Common Article 3 to the Geneva
>>> Conventions of 1949," it says.
>>>
>>> In a 5-3 decision in June, the Supreme Court ruled that existing law
>>> barred military commissions. The decision effectively means
>>> officials
>>> will have to come up with new procedures to prosecute at least 10
>>> "enemy combatants" awaiting trial or release them from military
>>> custody.
>>>
>>> In the concurring opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer said, "Congress
>>> has
>>> not issued the executive a blank check."
>>>
>>> "Indeed, Congress has denied the president the legislative authority
>>> to create military commissions of the kind at issue here," he wrote.
>>> However, he noted, "Nothing prevents the president from returning to
>>> Congress to seek the authority he believes necessary."
>>>
>>> The case was brought on behalf of Yemeni suspect Salim Ahmed Hamdan,
>>> who was captured in Afghanistan in 2001 and who officials say has
>>> admitted being Osama bin Laden's bodyguard and driver.
>>>
>>> The United States has claimed that the Guantanamo detainees are not
>>> on U.S. soil and therefore are not covered by the U.S. Constitution.
>>>
>>> The government has argued that enemy combatant or "unlawful
>>> combatant" status means detainees can be denied legal protections
>>> usually afforded prisoners of war, as outlined in the Geneva
>>> Conventions.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, Bush once again defended the war in Iraq as central to
>>> the war on terrorism, saying that a U.S. withdrawal would only
>>> propel
>>> bin Laden and other terrorists into more powerful positions. (Watch
>>> Bush argue why Iraq is central to the war on terror -- 1:51)
>>>
>>> Bush has aggressively asserted the power of the government to
>>> capture, detain and prosecute suspected terrorists in the wake of
>>> the
>>> September 11, 2001, attacks.
>>>
>>> CNN's Ed Henry and Ted Barrett contributed to this report.
>>>
>>> Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be
>>> published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press
>>> contributed to this report.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Find this article at:
>>> http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/06/bush.speech/index.html
>>>
>>> Click Here to Print
>>> SAVE THIS | EMAIL THIS | Close
>>> Check the box to include the list of links referenced in the
>>> article.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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