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  • How to allow subscribed users to disable receiving emails?

    from emanuel on Feb 21, 2008 02:14 PM
    Hi there,
    
    I am using listen 0.5b1 with Plone 2.5.2 and I'd like to allow people subscribed to a the listen list (Members List type) to be able configure whether they want to receive email or not. ie, some people want to be subscribed and able to sent emails to a list, but only read emails using the web interface. Do you know of anything like that already implemented? If not, any pointer on where should I start looking at to implement this?
    
    Thanks in advance,
    Emanuel
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  • Re: How to allow subscribed users to disable receiving emails?

    from rmarianski on Feb 21, 2008 07:25 PM
    That feature should already be in there.
    
    If somebody new sends a message to a mailing list, then will get an  
    email back asking to confirm their email address. Once they do, the  
    message goes through, and they become an "allowed sender". If they  
    post something through the web, they automatically become an allowed  
    sender.
    
    Members can toggle their membership state by viewing the mailing list,  
    or sending a message to the list with "unsubscribe" in the subject.
    
    Robert
    
    On Feb 21, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Emanuel Sartor wrote:
    
    > Hi there,
    >
    > I am using listen 0.5b1 with Plone 2.5.2 and I'd like to allow  
    > people subscribed to a the listen list (Members List type) to be  
    > able configure whether they want to receive email or not. ie, some  
    > people want to be subscribed and able to sent emails to a list, but  
    > only read emails using the web interface. Do you know of anything  
    > like that already implemented? If not, any pointer on where should I  
    > start looking at to implement this?
    >
    > Thanks in advance,
    > Emanuel
    >
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    • Re: How to allow subscribed users to disable receiving emails?

      from emanuel on Feb 22, 2008 12:48 PM
      Thanks for the reply, Robert. I might have not been clear about what I want
      though. I'll try to clarify. What I want is to have an option for users to
      disable mail delivery to their email accounts while they are still subscribed
      to a list. In that case they won't need to confirm their email address because
      their are already subscribed.
      
      For example, the lists in sourceforge have this feature. I am subscribed to a
      couple of lists so I can post there, but the emails never get to my inbox.
      Instead I use a news client application to read emails posted on those lists.
      
      Emanuel
      
      
      On 2008-02-21 19:25, Robert Marianski wrote:
      > That feature should already be in there.
      > 
      > If somebody new sends a message to a mailing list, then will get an  
      > email back asking to confirm their email address. Once they do, the  
      > message goes through, and they become an "allowed sender". If they  
      > post something through the web, they automatically become an allowed  
      > sender.
      > 
      > Members can toggle their membership state by viewing the mailing list,  
      > or sending a message to the list with "unsubscribe" in the subject.
      > 
      > Robert
      > 
      > On Feb 21, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Emanuel Sartor wrote:
      > 
      > > Hi there,
      > >
      > > I am using listen 0.5b1 with Plone 2.5.2 and I'd like to allow  
      > > people subscribed to a the listen list (Members List type) to be  
      > > able configure whether they want to receive email or not. ie, some  
      > > people want to be subscribed and able to sent emails to a list, but  
      > > only read emails using the web interface. Do you know of anything  
      > > like that already implemented? If not, any pointer on where should I  
      > > start looking at to implement this?
      > >
      > > Thanks in advance,
      > > Emanuel
      > >
      > > --
      > > Archive:
      > >
      > > http://www.openplans.org/projects/listen/lists/listen-dev/archive/2008/02/1203621283135
      To
      > > unsubscribe send an email with subject unsubscribe to
      > > listen-dev@... 
      .  Please contact
      > > listen-dev-manager@... for  
      questions.
      > >
      > >
      > > !DSPAM:4021,47bdcdf4123798362916074!
      > >
      > 
      
      
      • Re: Re: How to allow subscribed users to disable receiving emails?

        from rmarianski on Feb 22, 2008 02:41 PM
        I think we're saying the same things, it's just that the mailman  
        terminology has us confused.
        
        "Allowed sender" on our side means mailman's "subscribed but no mail"
        
        We consider the term "subscribed" to mean that you are actively  
        receiving mail from the list, not that you are a member of it.
        Being an allowed sender means exactly that, you are allowed to send  
        messages to the list, but you are not receiving mail.
        
        Rob is right in his other email where he mentioned that simply  
        subscribing and then unsubscribing has this effect, even though we  
        don't explicitly mention it in the ui. You can check the status of all  
        members of the list by navigating to the manage membership view, which  
        shows you which members are subscribed and which are only allowed  
        senders.
        
        But users don't need to explicitly subscribe/unsubscribe to become an  
        allowed sender. This happens naturally when they first send out a  
        message. If they send an email, they are asked to confirm, and then  
        become allowed senders when they confirm (assuming a public list). All  
        subsequent messages go through without confirmation. If they post ttw,  
        they automatically become an allowed sender.
        
        HTH,
        Robert
        
        On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:48 PM, Emanuel Sartor wrote:
        
        > Thanks for the reply, Robert. I might have not been clear about what  
        > I want
        > though. I'll try to clarify. What I want is to have an option for  
        > users to
        > disable mail delivery to their email accounts while they are still  
        > subscribed
        > to a list. In that case they won't need to confirm their email  
        > address because
        > their are already subscribed.
        >
        > For example, the lists in sourceforge have this feature. I am  
        > subscribed to a
        > couple of lists so I can post there, but the emails never get to my  
        > inbox.
        > Instead I use a news client application to read emails posted on  
        > those lists.
        >
        > Emanuel
        >
        >
        > On 2008-02-21 19:25, Robert Marianski wrote:
        >> That feature should already be in there.
        >>
        >> If somebody new sends a message to a mailing list, then will get an
        >> email back asking to confirm their email address. Once they do, the
        >> message goes through, and they become an "allowed sender". If they
        >> post something through the web, they automatically become an allowed
        >> sender.
        >>
        >> Members can toggle their membership state by viewing the mailing  
        >> list,
        >> or sending a message to the list with "unsubscribe" in the subject.
        >>
        >> Robert
        >>
        >> On Feb 21, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Emanuel Sartor wrote:
        >>
        >>> Hi there,
        >>>
        >>> I am using listen 0.5b1 with Plone 2.5.2 and I'd like to allow
        >>> people subscribed to a the listen list (Members List type) to be
        >>> able configure whether they want to receive email or not. ie, some
        >>> people want to be subscribed and able to sent emails to a list, but
        >>> only read emails using the web interface. Do you know of anything
        >>> like that already implemented? If not, any pointer on where should I
        >>> start looking at to implement this?
        >>>
        >>> Thanks in advance,
        >>> Emanuel
        >>>
        >>> --
        >>> Archive:
        >>>
        >>> http://www.openplans.org/projects/listen/lists/listen-dev/archive/2008/02/1203621283135
        > To
        >>> unsubscribe send an email with subject unsubscribe to
        >>> listen-dev@...
        > .  Please contact
        >>> listen-dev-manager@... for
        > questions.
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>
        >
        >
        >
        > --
        > Archive: http://www.openplans.org/projects/listen/lists/listen-dev/archive/2008/02/1203702529190
        > To unsubscribe send an email with subject unsubscribe to listen-dev@... 
        > .  Please contact listen-dev-manager@... for  
        > questions.
        >
        >
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        >
        
        
  • Re: How to allow subscribed users to disable receiving emails?

    from ra on Feb 22, 2008 02:26 PM
    Emanuel Sartor wrote:
    > Hi there,
    > 
    > I am using listen 0.5b1 with Plone 2.5.2 and I'd like to allow people subscribed to a the listen list (Members List type) to be able configure whether they want to receive email or not. ie, some people want to be subscribed and able to sent emails to a list, but only read emails using the web interface. Do you know of anything like that already implemented? If not, any pointer on where should I start looking at to implement this?
    
    this is already working on the openplans.org site.  the way it works is that 
    you would subscribe to the list and then immediately unsubscribe.  you'll 
    still be allowed to send messages, but you'll no longer receive them.
    
    on openplans we're using listen from the trunk, revision 58027.  i'm not sure 
    whether this works on the released version that you're using; can you try it 
    out and let us know?
    
    -r
    
    • Re: How to allow subscribed users to disable receiving emails?

      from emanuel on Feb 22, 2008 05:10 PM
      On 2008-02-22 14:26, Rob Miller wrote:
      > Emanuel Sartor wrote:
      > > Hi there,
      > > 
      > > I am using listen 0.5b1 with Plone 2.5.2 and I'd like to allow people
      > > subscribed to a the listen list (Members List type) to be able configure
      > > whether they want to receive email or not. ie, some people want to be
      > > subscribed and able to sent emails to a list, but only read emails using
      > > the web interface. Do you know of anything like that already implemented?
      > > If not, any pointer on where should I start looking at to implement this?
      > 
      > this is already working on the openplans.org site.  the way it works is that 
      > you would subscribe to the list and then immediately unsubscribe.  you'll 
      > still be allowed to send messages, but you'll no longer receive them.
      > 
      > on openplans we're using listen from the trunk, revision 58027.  i'm not
      > sure 
      whether this works on the released version that you're using; can
      > you try it 
      out and let us know?
      > 
      > -r
      
      Yes, it works in the version I'm using!
      
      Cheers,
      Emanuel