Hi Matt,

Thanks for taking the time to do this!

I still haven't had time to read the proposals properly, but two notes 
of caution:

  - Having two students work on the same thing (East Asian Languages) is 
probably not ideal. We should either pick one or rescope each carefully.

  - Proven commitment and dependability should come before flashy 
proposal, so long as we're getting something we want/need

  - Actionable specifics should come before non-specific but tempting 
proposals. The vague ones usually under deliver.

  - People who haven't worked with Plone before need to make up for that 
somehow in their proposal. Students often figure they can just pick it 
up as they go along. In the past, those students have failed.

Cheers,
Martin

Matthew Wilkes wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> What is the general consensus on the applications then?
> 
> 
> My thoughts:
> 
> I'm going to give my preferences then some (unordered) comments.  If  
> you want to give the preferences in the same format as me I'll count  
> them as an informal STV election and send the results around.  Sorry,  
> I'm a constitutional/election nerd deep down.
> 
> So, this is an ordered list of projects I'd like to see, 1 being  
> best.  I've included all of them, including ones I didn't rank to make  
> it easier for you guys.  Once you get to the stage where you have no  
> preference of one over another, just stop ranking, don't feel the need  
> to express a preference of one project you don't like over another.
> 
> 1) Non-AT membrane  (Friesdorf)
> 2) Component Registry Introspector (Lundwall)
> 3) Buildout Builder (Miller)
> 4) External indexing (Treméa)
> 5) Event-based Email (Kohlwey)
> 6) Portlet Infrastructure (Alves)
> 7) Faceted search (Upton)
> 8) Plone batch editing (Mansilla)
> 9) PloneFreezer (Kupczyński)
> 10) Fitter for East Asian (Hara)
> 11) Develop for East Asian (Manaka)
> 12) Templating engine (Schlichting)
> 13) Social Networking (Filgueiras)
> 14) AJAXIFY PFG (Simsek)
> 15) Bitflux (Bulu)
> 16) Docbook (Ülkü)
>   - ) Basic social networking (Kupczyński)
>   - ) Better for East Asian (Nakamura)
>   - ) The "Big Green Button" (Mustapha)
>   - ) application for plone (Tarigan)
>   - ) Add basic social networking (Farbey)
> 
> 
> Comments:
> 
> 
> Social networking:
> 	I like Rudá's proposal, but I'm not 100% on this being a good use of  
> the SoC slots.
> 
> CJK:
> 	Yasushi Hara's or Hironobu Manaka's proposals seem the best two,  
> probably leaning towards the former, but I can't really make an  
> informed decision between he two.
> 
> Component Registry:
> 	I like this one, think there's a very good chance of it being  
> completed and would be very nice to have.
> 
> Non-AT membrane:
> 	Great idea, I'm not well versed in LDAP stuff, but this proposal  
> seems very well thought out and he seems knowledgeable on the subject.
> 
> Event based email:
> 	This one is an odd one, it has the potential to be really useful, or  
> it could just replicate a lot of work done by singing and dancing.   
> Overall I say we go for it and the mentor encourages close work with  
> S&D if it looks like it's heading that way.
> 
> Hannosch's templating:
> 	I could live without this one, it's more research and not pressing,  
> although it would be cool if we had the resources.
> 
> xkenneth's buildout builder:
> 	We need to find people looking to mentor for this one, but the guy  
> has been quite active on irc, he's been chatting to derek_richardson a  
> fair bit and it's a good proposal, I want to see it happen,.
> 
> Deo's searching:
> 	I like it, gimme!
> 
> Batch editing:
> 	Again, very important.  Will need some good UI advice to make it  
> intuitive.
> 
> rsalves's portlets:
> 	This would tie together some odds and ends that people are working on  
> as well as general tidying and usability for new style portlets in  
> general, it's one of the ones I'd like to see.
> 
> Sean Upton's faceted search:
> 	Very similar to batch editing, great idea and proposal, needs UI  
> knowledge.
> 
> BitFlux XML:
> 	It's a nice editor, but I am concerned that the student hasn't used  
> Plone before and was until recently unsure if they could complete in  
> time.  Probably -1 to this one.
> 
> PFG editing:
> 	I think he's willing to give up his GWT plans, on balance I agree  
> with jensens, GWT is probably a killer for this proposal.
> 
> Docbook:
> 	I don't think this is a good one, tbh.  -1
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Alright, here's my ordered list then:

1) External Indexing
2) Plone batch editing
3) Faceted Search
4) Non-AT membrane
5) Event-based Email
6) Component Registry Introspector

I would go as far as saying if we get those in, we can consider
ourselves more than lucky. Those are very concrete and useful
proposals that generate important impact for Plone in general.

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