Moving this back to the design list, since it's not really relevant to  
everyone on the streets list.  If this were a bigger office, I'd  
suggest we create a streets-design list, but everyone on the design  
team is already on the streets project :)

On May 1, 2008, at 7:29 PM, Christopher Patterson wrote:

> Nick ran this by me in IRC earlier today. Here's the gist of my  
> response:
>
> The big concern I have is revising markup and styling the LSN stuff  
> (profile pages / wiki / groups) - basically all the stuff within  
> openplans. I have yet to have any task pertaining to openplans be  
> easier / faster than expected. That's the only iceberg issue I see  
> on my plate.
>
> For instance, the LSN project blog stuff may need heavy revision -  
> especially admin screens. I also don't see any listings for  
> StreetsWiki markup changes or styling. I don't know if anyone from  
> the Design team has looked at any of those pages (I have not), but  
> we should expect there to be at least some integration / revision  
> work on that front.

I spent some time looking at blogs within projects today, and I think  
this is one area where we can scale back as necessary, possibly/ 
probably going with the no-treatment option as we currently do on  
nycstreets.org.   Phil's mockups show moving blog sub-navigation to  
within the main navigation, which is a detail we should probably punt  
on for the first round.  Assuming we do that, there might not be very  
much work in the blog admin at all.

It's true that there aren't any mockups for streetswiki.  The  
assumption, at this point, is that it can inherit most of its style  
from wikis within groups.  Non-group pages (profiles, search results),  
can also be treated in a very vanilla manner, as they were on previous  
versions of livablestreets.com (like what's currently up at  
stage.livablestreets.com).  These pages can mostly stand on their own  
with the base opencore styles, taking some cues from the site wrapper.

> I'll do what I can to get the full first-draft of sblog / sfilms  
> done ahead of next week's milestone, to see whether I can buy us any  
> extra time.
>
> In terms of pipelining the markup & CSS work, I probably will need  
> some help, and that most-likely will mean some combination of  
> Rollie / Nick / Phil. Given how tight the deadline is, it might make  
> most sense to have Phil pair with Rollie or Nick to ramp up, unless  
> Phil's needed on pressing design stuff for OpenGeo or other internal  
> clients.

Yeah, Rollie and I spoke briefly about this this morning.  To start,  
he's going to spend some of his own time implementing the new Project  
Summary page in HTML.  But he will also be working with Phil to  
balance his time between this project and OpenGeo work.  I might also  
spend some night/weekend time pitching in, heh heh :)  Regardless,  
we'll make sure you get the help you need.

> So basically, I'm optimistic that we'll be able to hit this  
> timeline, but it may be a bit of a rough month. It'll be pretty  
> critical that we have good communication within the team, as well as  
> clear requirements for any development changes we need to make for  
> launch.

Yes, definitely.  To start, we should put our heads together (you, me,  
phil), before embarking on any new sections of the site, to review the  
mockups and get on the same page re: details, especially since the  
various mockups are not always 100% synced up. I'll also continue to  
add notes to the Production Status page, including annotating  
skitches.  Let's really try to use that page as our staging ground.

Nick

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