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  • Some opinions on Photoshop

    from sonali on Jun 04, 2008 11:55 AM 
    There is some argument in making the photoshop step in design obsolete  
- tho this might be in the future a bit its worth the read.

http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/1061-why-we-skip-photoshop

http://designnotes.info/?p=1420

sonali
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  • Re: Some opinions on Photoshop

    from nickyg on Jun 04, 2008 12:05 PM 
    Interesting.   This is certainly how I design, but obviously Phil  
would disagree with this approach.  Reflecting on the woonerf process,  
we tried to do the no-photoshop approach to start, but it didn't  
totally work out; I'm not entirely sure why.

In my opinion, the trick for going straight-to-markup is avoiding the  
"ugly" stage -- in other words, the part where the markup is done, but  
many of the CSS details are incomplete enough that the design looks  
ugly.  The #1 culprit here is padding (also line spacing).  So, to  
make this approach work, you have to make sure that the final product  
is "pretty enough" at every phase, so that it doesn't inspire gags  
from outside folks.

Nick


On Jun 4, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Sonali Sridhar wrote:

> There is some argument in making the photoshop step in design  
> obsolete - tho this might be in the future a bit its worth the read.
>
> http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/1061-why-we-skip-photoshop
>
> http://designnotes.info/?p=1420
>
> sonali
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    • Re: Some opinions on Photoshop

      from blence on Jun 04, 2008 12:16 PM 
      It thought that was a really interesting article.

And I totally agree with nick that the whole problem with paper -->  
css is the ugly phase....you just need to make sure that you don't  
show clients the work until it's done.  Internally, I think you get a  
lot out of clicking through, etc, even if it's ugly.

However, for what it's worth, this is completely contrary to how Apple  
designs.

Bryan

On Jun 4, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Nick Grossman wrote:

> Interesting.   This is certainly how I design, but obviously Phil  
> would disagree with this approach.  Reflecting on the woonerf  
> process, we tried to do the no-photoshop approach to start, but it  
> didn't totally work out; I'm not entirely sure why.
>
> In my opinion, the trick for going straight-to-markup is avoiding  
> the "ugly" stage -- in other words, the part where the markup is  
> done, but many of the CSS details are incomplete enough that the  
> design looks ugly.  The #1 culprit here is padding (also line  
> spacing).  So, to make this approach work, you have to make sure  
> that the final product is "pretty enough" at every phase, so that it  
> doesn't inspire gags from outside folks.
>
> Nick
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Sonali Sridhar wrote:
>> There is some argument in making the photoshop step in design  
>> obsolete - tho this might be in the future a bit its worth the read.
>>
>> http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/1061-why-we-skip-photoshop
>>
>> http://designnotes.info/?p=1420
>>
>> sonali
>>
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