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	<title>Comments on: Digging on the Windmill</title>
	<link>http://www.openplans.org/projects/topp-engineering/blog/2008/06/25/digging-on-the-windmill/</link>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ra</title>
		<link>http://www.openplans.org/projects/topp-engineering/blog/2008/06/25/digging-on-the-windmill/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>ra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, I've spent some time w/ Selenium as well, and we evaluated it for OpenPlans testing back when we settled on twill and flunc.  It's been around for a lot longer, and is definitely a lot more stable.  I'm not a fan of the Selenium testing language, however, and Selenium doesn't lend itself to automation as nicely as Windmill.  I'm hopeful that the Windmill developers will continue to be responsive and will fix the show-stoppers that we hit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, I&#8217;ve spent some time w/ Selenium as well, and we evaluated it for OpenPlans testing back when we settled on twill and flunc.  It&#8217;s been around for a lot longer, and is definitely a lot more stable.  I&#8217;m not a fan of the Selenium testing language, however, and Selenium doesn&#8217;t lend itself to automation as nicely as Windmill.  I&#8217;m hopeful that the Windmill developers will continue to be responsive and will fix the show-stoppers that we hit.</p>
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		<title>By: nickyg</title>
		<link>http://www.openplans.org/projects/topp-engineering/blog/2008/06/25/digging-on-the-windmill/#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>nickyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Rob!  I spent some time experimenting with Windmill a while back and can definitely see its potential.  However, I ran into the "waits" problem, which at the time seemed like a blocker.  I subsequently spent some time playing with Selenium, which was much better (flawless, actually) in that regard.

Anyway, I really like the idea of using a testing tool that has a real-time IDE for creating tests.  They aren't perfect, but they certainly make the process faster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Rob!  I spent some time experimenting with Windmill a while back and can definitely see its potential.  However, I ran into the &#8220;waits&#8221; problem, which at the time seemed like a blocker.  I subsequently spent some time playing with Selenium, which was much better (flawless, actually) in that regard.</p>
<p>Anyway, I really like the idea of using a testing tool that has a real-time IDE for creating tests.  They aren&#8217;t perfect, but they certainly make the process faster.</p>
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