• Zope.org Redux

  • zorg findings

    from ctheune on Apr 23, 2008 11:42 AM
    Hi,
    
    I started putting in some content today for the ZODB and have some comments.
    
    First: good job. I really like it and the workflow is nice enough with Plone
    3.
    
    Here some comments:
    
    - The styling for "terminal output" (literal) looks nice but is very hard to
      read. (I think I'm not blind yet.)
    
    - I'm missing a styling that looks good when presenting those svn urls on the
      download page: I tried various styles and currently left it at 'literal'
      although I'm not happy with it. Suggestions? (See:
      http://zode01.lovelysystems.com/projects/zodb/downloads)
    
    - The spacing between the description and the body seems too far. For me it
      feels like something is missing there.
    
    - Can someone give me publishing rights? I'd like to see how the final result
      looks like when I'm not logged in ...
    
    - The quotes look good but are maybe a bit heavy against the normal text. I'm
      using them as annotations in the tutorial and find them a bit too
      distracting: http://zode01.lovelysystems.com/projects/zodb/tutorial
    
    Christian
    
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  • Re: zorg findings

    from optilude on Apr 23, 2008 12:12 PM
    Thanks for the input, Christian!
    
    > - The styling for "terminal output" (literal) looks nice but is very hard to
    >   read. (I think I'm not blind yet.)
    
    It looks OK to me, but maybe it gets a bit too low-contrast near the 
    lighter end of the gradient? Would it be OK with more contrast?
    
    > - I'm missing a styling that looks good when presenting those svn urls on the
    >   download page: I tried various styles and currently left it at 'literal'
    >   although I'm not happy with it. Suggestions? (See:
    >   http://zode01.lovelysystems.com/projects/zodb/downloads)
    > 
    > - The spacing between the description and the body seems too far. For me it
    >   feels like something is missing there.
    
    I agree.
    
    > - Can someone give me publishing rights? I'd like to see how the final result
    >   looks like when I'm not logged in ...
    
    Sure. :) I'll do this.
    
    > - The quotes look good but are maybe a bit heavy against the normal text. I'm
    >   using them as annotations in the tutorial and find them a bit too
    >   distracting: http://zode01.lovelysystems.com/projects/zodb/tutorial
    
    Agree.
    
    Denys - any chance you could look into making some visual tweaks basedon 
    this feedback and the feedback I gave a few weeks back?
    
    Cheers,
    Martin
    
    • Re: zorg findings

      from ctheune on Apr 23, 2008 12:50 PM
      On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 05:12:16PM +0100, Martin Aspeli wrote:
      > Thanks for the input, Christian!
      >
      >> - The styling for "terminal output" (literal) looks nice but is very hard to
      >>   read. (I think I'm not blind yet.)
      >
      > It looks OK to me, but maybe it gets a bit too low-contrast near the  
      > lighter end of the gradient? Would it be OK with more contrast?
      
      Well, the issue is this depends on the font and the actual rendering
      mechanism. I'm on Ubuntu 8.04 with FF3 and the font is rather slim so the
      color contrast becomes a large issue for me, even at the beginning. It's just
      hard to read. I'll attach a screenshot.
      
      (Note: I'm not finding it *that* hard to read. But if anyone should have
      troubles with his eyes, he's gonna have a really hard time I guess.)
      
      >> - Can someone give me publishing rights? I'd like to see how the final result
      >>   looks like when I'm not logged in ...
      >
      > Sure. :) I'll do this.
      
      Thanks.
      
      Christian
      
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  • Re: zorg findings

    from fcorrea on Apr 23, 2008 10:02 PM
    Hey
    
    On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Christian Theune <ct@...> wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    >  I started putting in some content today for the ZODB and have some comments.
    
    I am impressed with the amount of your "some content" :). While I was
    discussing with Dirceu (didn't know you were going to do it) you
    jumped in and just did it. Let me know if I can help with something.
    
    Regards,
    Fernando
    
    • Re: zorg findings

      from ctheune on Apr 24, 2008 01:01 AM
      Hey,
      
      On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:02:12PM -0300, Fernando Correa Neto wrote:
      > Hey
      > 
      > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Christian Theune <ct@...> wrote:
      > > Hi,
      > >
      > >  I started putting in some content today for the ZODB and have some comments.
      > 
      > I am impressed with the amount of your "some content" :). 
      
      I've given a few ZODB talks in the last year and have some slides to extract
      this from. ;)
      
      > While I was discussing with Dirceu (didn't know you were going to do it) you
      > jumped in and just did it. Let me know if I can help with something.
      
      Sure, read it and tell me if you find anything wrong or hard to understand.
      (Please don't fix it inline, or tell me and fix it. I can't notice otherwise.)
      
      Also, I don't have all the content for the documentation structure that I
      created, but I'll throw in some stuff.
      
      I figured that the storage pages could be somewhat similar in structure, to
      allow easy comparison of storage features and details. Some points should be
      the same everywhere:
      
      - general explanation
      - a quick feature chart
      - configuration options
      - performance characteristics
      - maintenance chores
      
      Christian
      
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